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09-21-23 07:06 AM - Post#2862712
I just purchased a 57 2 door htp Bel Air. It's a V8 with 3speed on the column. I know it doesn't have the original motor. I can't read the code on the right side by the flat surface where it should be. The valve covers don't have the bolt pattern that the 55-57's have, it has a square pattern. The intake has a number of 18496572 on it but I can't find it in my Chevy ID guide.
Does anyone know what it might be? I am wondering if it might be a dealer replacement engine.
George Kralik
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09-21-23 07:23 AM - Post#2862713
In response to gkralik3645
Look for id stuff, top rear of the block, next to the distributor.
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09-22-23 02:55 AM - Post#2862744
In response to gkralik3645
The number on the intake is the firing order but it should be 18436572.
Vern
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09-22-23 07:10 AM - Post#2862750
In response to Shepherd
Thanks for your responses. I will look today.
george
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09-24-23 07:33 AM - Post#2862790
In response to Shepherd
Here is the number by the distributor. It is not in the book. It is 3788348.
Thanks to everyone.
Also it does not use a spin on oil filter, uses a cartridge.
George
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09-24-23 02:00 PM - Post#2862807
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Double check that number, it doesn't show up in a search.
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09-25-23 02:28 AM - Post#2862822
In response to gkralik3645
The spin-on oil filter came out on Chevy V8s in 1968 (except for 66-67 Novas) so the engine is probably 1967 or older.
Vern
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09-25-23 11:48 AM - Post#2862833
In response to Shepherd
I checked it again and the number I showed above is what is on the intake manifold. As I said before, I wonder if it is a dealer replacement. Did these always have correct numbers?
George
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09-25-23 12:19 PM - Post#2862834
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The 9 should be a 3, maybe it is tough to tell?
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09-25-23 01:51 PM - Post#2862835
In response to Shepherd
Does it have a oilplug just below the top of the block just above the waterpump if so could a 327 or 283
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09-26-23 06:59 AM - Post#2862856
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There is no oil plug. I do have one more bit of information. I bought a new flashlight.
The code on the passenger side head is TT2059A. Does that mean anything to anyone?
Thanks for all responses,
George
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09-26-23 07:48 AM - Post#2862859
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The casting number on the head requires removing the valve cover.
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09-26-23 02:03 PM - Post#2862873
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Is the code TT2059A on the on the head or the block in front of the head? Also, are there accessory holes on the ends of the heads?
There also should be casting marks on the end of the head --> http://www.v8volvo.se/mekartips/identifierin g/chev...
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09-27-23 02:28 AM - Post#2862886
In response to BigDogSS
Thanks for posting that. Good information!
Vern
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09-27-23 07:05 AM - Post#2862890
In response to BigDogSS
The number I posted is on the block not the head. There are no accessory holes on the head or symbols. Looking at it again, it's possible the number starts with TI instead of TT, very hard to tell. There are no casting marks on the end of the head.
George
Edited by gkralik3645 on 09-27-23 07:07 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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09-27-23 07:20 AM - Post#2862891
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'....9A' on the pad? Could the '9' be a 'G'?
All the engine codes I am familiar with end in at least two 'letters'. IF it is '...GA'; it is a 1965 283; originally with a 2 barrel and mated to a 3 speed manual transmission.
Just a possibility.
Pete
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09-27-23 11:20 AM - Post#2862900
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Ok I have cleaned it off completely now.
Pete, you are right, the number ends with two letters, the whole code is TT205SA. THere was a tiny flicker of orange paint.
I hope this will make sense. It does have a three speed stick.
George
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09-27-23 12:09 PM - Post#2862902
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Lottsa stuff going on here, why not pull a valve cover and get a true head casting number?
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09-27-23 01:46 PM - Post#2862903
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I haven't done that yet because it's not leaking any oil now and with my luck it would, even if I put new gaskets on.
I was hoping that the block could be identified and that would satisfy me.
George
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09-27-23 04:21 PM - Post#2862908
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Ok I have cleaned it off completely now.
Pete, you are right, the number ends with two letters, the whole code is TT205SA. THere was a tiny flicker of orange paint.
I hope this will make sense. It does have a three speed stick.
George
Check here:
http://www.348-409.com/suffixsb.htm
Pete
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09-27-23 05:31 PM - Post#2862911
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George. SA = 62 or 63 250 HP. 327. Scroll down on this list and see. Hope this helps.
http://www.1968ss.com/sbcsuffix.asp
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09-28-23 07:13 AM - Post#2862920
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Thank you 55 Shaker and Pete. This is exactly what I wanted to know. Also the list says the motor would have AC, that sorta explains why my engine has an extra pulley on the crankshaft. This 250 hp 327 engine is exactly what I had in my first 57. It was a good one.
George
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