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Username Post: windshield install on 2dr ht        (Topic#69346)
57tim 
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06-25-04 01:02 PM - Post#470129    

When installing the front windshield, do you put the top stainless in the gasket before you install the windshield. The instructions at the top of the forum do not address this unless I missed something.

My windshield came out using the instruction perfectly but reinstalling is another story. Thanks for documenting the process.
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55mad 
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Re: windshield install on 2dr ht
06-25-04 01:11 PM - Post#470130    
    In response to 57tim

Yes the two top pieces should installed in the rubber before you install the windshield.
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Re: windshield install on 2dr ht
06-25-04 01:14 PM - Post#470131    
    In response to 57tim

I just installed my windshield yesterday on my '55 Nomad, so it is plenty fresh on my mind, and sore fingers. Yes, you install the top stainless in the top groove and make sure it grabs ahold of the slot and clicks on. Also make sure you have it real centered, because when you get down to screwing in the trim you may miss the hole by 1/4" and that is no fun.I had done a search on the forum and found a good lengthy guide to installing.

 
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Re: windshield install on 2dr ht
06-25-04 05:51 PM - Post#470132    
    In response to 57tim

I didn't realize it but you're right about the front windshield installation not being in the above post and it should be. Hopefully Smokey will notice this and install the following Domoracki instructions into that post, so it will be complete:

55-57 Windshield Installation
Contributed by Michael Domoracki CT Member #1031

"First put the rubber all the way around the windshield. Install the stainless trim in the channel provided for it. The center connector clip MUST be installed also. I hope the gasket is T&N...all others are hard and will give you fits. I will only use the others for dumpster fill.
After this is done go to the body and put a bead of 3M strip caulk all the way around in the recess area. Turn the windshield over so it is setting outside down on the floor (carpet please) and install a 1/4 inch rope, like the old clothes lines were made out of, all the way around in the channel that the body lip will set in. Set the windshield with the rope installed with the trim and all in place. Make sure that it is centered left to right and top to bottom.
You will need someone to help with the next step....grab your wife if you can... as you put pressure on the outside of the glass have her pull the rope out from the inside, have her pull slowly so the inner half of the rubber gasket is pulled over the lip as the rope comes out. Do this all the way around until the rope is all out and the windshield is in place. If you are lucky it will be and no further work is needed. Sometimes if the gasket/windshield/trim combination is not centered it will not line up all the way around the same, so make sure it is BEFORE you do or you will need to pull it all back out.
After it is in, the corner clips have a special inner clip that looks like a lazy "y" laid on it's side. They slide in the back of the stainless corner and are held in place on the long end by a screw. Slide the narrow end of the clip over the end of the top windshield trim and adjust for alignment. Install the screw in the clip, but do not tighten it to much, if you do then you may not get the lower stainless to slide under it later.
The lower windshield trim is held on with 5 clips. 2 have studs, 2 have holes and one is larger then the others and has lots of holes so you can adjust it in place. Take the 2 clips with the studs and slid them into the stainless on the end closest to the lower corner, one per side. Take the 2 small clips remaining and screw them in to the two holes that are inside to the center of the wiper transmissions. Do not over tighten them. Now slide the lower trim over these clips and to the center. Line up the clips in the stainless with the studs to the holes in the body and place them in. Now slowly feed the end of the stainless into the corner clip and center it so the notch fits the wiper tranny perfect. Do both sides the same.
Last take the large clip with lots of holes and slid it into the center to connect both lower stainless moldings and center it so the center hole lines up with the screw hole and screw it down.
Finally snap the center connector stainless clip over the gap, snap it from the top down and you are done."


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57tim 
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Re: windshield install on 2dr ht
06-26-04 04:57 AM - Post#470133    
    In response to 67SS427

Steve,
What will happen if you don't put in the caulk strip.? Do you think it will leak? Mines in without the caulking but I also don't drive in the rain unless I can't help it.
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Re: windshield install on 2dr ht
06-26-04 05:52 AM - Post#470134    
    In response to 57tim

A box of strip caulk is about $12. It may not leak, but may leave a space for water to collect under the rubber.

 
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Re: windshield install on 2dr ht
06-26-04 06:42 AM - Post#470135    
    In response to Wondertruck

You can get a tube of sealer for installing glass such as a windshield.

Most people use the 3M product for this and I have as well.

You just slip it into a caulking gun and start spreading.

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Re: windshield install on 2dr ht
06-26-04 08:06 AM - Post#470136    
    In response to rj_ly

Having done this with my four door hardtop when I installed the windshield, I offer this advice, if applicable.

At the top of roof, say 8" or 9" in from the A pillars, you should see three different pieces of metal come together. Make sure that the intersection of the pieces is smooth and reasonably flush. Got my windshield installed but the stainless on one side stuck up a bit so we were tapping it down and cracked the windshield at the point when the glass bottomed out.
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57tim 
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Re: windshield install on 2dr ht
06-26-04 10:32 AM - Post#470137    
    In response to patrick_rodgers

I helped install mine and used a professional. We didn't put in any sealant but had to beat the @#%@ out of the windshield and even dented some of the stainless but its in. Then we discovered a scratch on the inside . He is going to try to polish it out but is also talking to his supplier for some sort of relief.
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Re: windshield install on 2dr ht
06-26-04 03:04 PM - Post#470138    
    In response to 57tim

I am no professional, and I didn't dent my stainless. I have put several windshields in over my lifetime. Mostly VWs, then a couple windshields in '55-'59 Chevy trucks. I did them myself, because nobody was around to help. The trucks didn't have the stainless, so this one was new to me. I called a friend of mine who helped a friend crack a window before. I showed him it is just a slow process. When at one time it wasn't working with the rope, I pulled it out and started over. He was shocked to see me start over. I told him it has to flow, no force on the glass. Plenty of soap and water and time. It is in and the stainless fits good.
Just take it easy, and they will go in.

 
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Re: windshield install on 2dr ht
06-26-04 04:16 PM - Post#470139    
    In response to 57tim

Quote:

Steve,
What will happen if you don't put in the caulk strip.? Do you think it will leak? Mines in without the caulking but I also don't drive in the rain unless I can't help it.



Yes, I believe it will leak if you don't use the caulking. I don't think it's a disaster, if you intend to keep the car dry. But it may be an inconvenience when you wash it or if you do get caught in the rain. Originally there was strip caulking used and some people go back with new strip caulking. It helps if the caulking is warmed before sitting the windshield/gasket assembly on it, so it will be more pliable. And only a single layer, several strips wide is needed, because if you put it too thick, it can make it harder to install the windshield and gasket due to tightness. Rather than using the strip caulk, I prefer to use 3M#08509 Bedding/Glazing compound which comes in a tube that you apply with a regular caulk gun to squirt a bead of sealer around the hole. It's a non-hardening black compound. It's easier to use and more effective at sealing, I think, because of it's consistency. When using it, hopefully you'd get the windshield in right the first time, because if you have to remove it to start again, it would be messy. You have to be careful not to get it on your headliner or other upholstery. It will wipe off of hard surfaces with a cloth dampened with mineral spirits.
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57tim 
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Re: windshield install on 2dr ht
06-26-04 06:26 PM - Post#470140    
    In response to 67SS427

Steve, and everyone else, thanks for the replies. I guess the next step is to see if leaks. Time to hose it down. I'll post my results next week.
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Re: windshield install on 2dr ht
06-26-04 06:28 PM - Post#470141    
    In response to Wondertruck

Quote:

I am no professional, and I didn't dent my stainless. I have put several windshields in over my lifetime. Mostly VWs, then a couple windshields in '55-'59 Chevy trucks. I did them myself, because nobody was around to help. The trucks didn't have the stainless, so this one was new to me. I called a friend of mine who helped a friend crack a window before. I showed him it is just a slow process. When at one time it wasn't working with the rope, I pulled it out and started over. He was shocked to see me start over. I told him it has to flow, no force on the glass. Plenty of soap and water and time. It is in and the stainless fits good.
Just take it easy, and they will go in.




I've installed front and back windshields and I am in no way a professional.

I too have started an installation, decided the glass wasn't right, removed it and re-installed the glass.

Taking your time is a big part of it.

I must admit I have dented the rear stainless while installing. Only cause I had it started wrong to begin with. I beat the #$%^ out of it before realizing I had it started wrong and was damaging it.
Tried to buy a used piece at a swap meet only to find out when I got home I'd purchased a piece for a Sedan not a Hardtop like I was working on. So I got the joy of straightening the dented piece and then polishing it.

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