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Username Post: cant siphon gas        (Topic#251256)
mag 
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Loc: mpls mn
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10-20-10 05:27 AM - Post#1992225    

Cant get a tube down my 61 to get last years gas out. Is there a baffle of sorts in the tube? 9/16 diameter hose. Have last novembers fill still in tank, hardly drove it due to work 90 octane nonoxygenated with can of seafoam. Would like to put fresher gas in before storage. It sits without starting it here in minnnesota. Thanks for your help.

 
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Dave_Neiling 
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10-20-10 05:37 AM - Post#1992229    
    In response to mag

no baffle should be able to get in with a flexible hose, mabey its getting stuck at the area between the filler neck and the gas tank at the rubber section that conects the two parts also try a smaller hose.
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62BillT 
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10-20-10 05:52 AM - Post#1992232    
    In response to Dave_Neiling

It may have a Gas Guard. Back in the '70's during the gas shortage, people would install guards to prevent their gas from being stolen. Some of them are visable and others are down deep and hard to see.

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64ss409 
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Loc: Montana
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10-20-10 06:18 AM - Post#1992238    
    In response to 62BillT

Unhook the hose at the fuel pump and put a little air pressure in the tank.
Ron
1964 SS 409/340 4 spd, bought new Oct '63
1964 Biscayne-will have 409
1962 SS convertible 4 spd 327
1971 K10 454
99 Silverado Z11
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Dave64SS 
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10-20-10 08:16 AM - Post#1992281    
    In response to 64ss409

OK, I'll bite on this comment? The gas tank is vented. So with the gas cap off and trying to get a hose in the tank, how is putting air into the gas feed line from the engine going to help????

 
62BillT 
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10-20-10 08:56 AM - Post#1992295    
    In response to Dave64SS

  • Dave64SS Said:
how is putting air into the gas feed line from the engine going to help????



I believe he is saying to put the air pressure at the gas filler and let it pump out of the gas line (before the fuel pump).

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Dave64SS 
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10-20-10 10:53 AM - Post#1992364    
    In response to 62BillT

AHHHHHH.....o dopey me....

 
64ss409 
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10-20-10 06:05 PM - Post#1992542    
    In response to Dave64SS

Yes that is what I meant. I bought a 62 vert last Nov that had not been run for 25 years. The gas really stunk! That is how I got the gas out. I put a longer rubber hose on the fuel pump end so I could catch in in a 5 gal bucket. Then I put in about 2 gallons of fresh gas and pushed it out again. I repeated, and after the 3rd time, the rotten gas was out.
Ron
1964 SS 409/340 4 spd, bought new Oct '63
1964 Biscayne-will have 409
1962 SS convertible 4 spd 327
1971 K10 454
99 Silverado Z11
1998 C5 convertible, torch red black top


Edited by 64ss409 on 10-20-10 06:07 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Chevrobert 
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10-20-10 06:44 PM - Post#1992575    
    In response to 64ss409

How long is the Sea Foam good for?
Bob
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1977 Pontiac Ventura SJ
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doubleE 
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10-21-10 04:24 AM - Post#1992715    
    In response to 64ss409

Ron, that is a clever solution but I wonder what condition the "sock" screen filter is in that is at the bottom of the fuel pick-up tube, inside the tank. I would think 25 years would have built up alot of crud. You would want to run an "in line" fuel filter before going into the fuel pump to play it safe.

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64ss409 
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10-21-10 05:41 AM - Post#1992733    
    In response to doubleE

I put in an inline filter after the "flush", just ahead of the fuel pump. I ran it for a while, removed, and cut it apart to check for crud. It was pretty clean. Nice surprise.
Ron
1964 SS 409/340 4 spd, bought new Oct '63
1964 Biscayne-will have 409
1962 SS convertible 4 spd 327
1971 K10 454
99 Silverado Z11
1998 C5 convertible, torch red black top


 
Dave64SS 
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10-21-10 06:31 AM - Post#1992745    
    In response to 64ss409

well..to me, two bolts and 2 hose clamps loosened up and you can drop the tank and clean the tank and the filter....Seems the easiest and most thorough way to attack this beast....

 
Chevrobert 
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10-21-10 07:56 AM - Post#1992775    
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  • Chevrobert Said:
How long is the Sea Foam good for?



Hey guys,
Related,
General knowledge,
experience specific..

What is the longest period y'all would trust treated gasoline?
Would you store a car fuel free if it was gonna sit for a year?
Thanks
Bob
1964 Impala SS
327 V8 - 4 Speed Manual - 4.56 PosiTraction
1977 Pontiac Ventura SJ
305 V8-3 Speed Automatic


 
64ss409 
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10-21-10 08:49 AM - Post#1992797    
    In response to Dave64SS

  • Dave64SS Said:
well..to me, two bolts and 2 hose clamps loosened up and you can drop the tank and clean the tank and the filter....Seems the easiest and most thorough way to attack this beast....


Removal is the best way. If I had gotten any rust particles during the flush, I would have removed it for cleaning.
This car was sitting in a garage during those 25 years.
Ron
1964 SS 409/340 4 spd, bought new Oct '63
1964 Biscayne-will have 409
1962 SS convertible 4 spd 327
1971 K10 454
99 Silverado Z11
1998 C5 convertible, torch red black top


 
Chevrobert 
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10-21-10 08:59 AM - Post#1992802    
    In response to 64ss409

You guys are making me insecure.

Are you ignoring me cause I have a little
motor?

Bob
1964 Impala SS
327 V8 - 4 Speed Manual - 4.56 PosiTraction
1977 Pontiac Ventura SJ
305 V8-3 Speed Automatic


 
impala 
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10-21-10 02:05 PM - Post#1992909    
    In response to Chevrobert




What is the longest period y'all would trust treated gasoline?
Would you store a car fuel free if it was gonna sit for a year?
Thanks


Ollie on here has a good fuel recipe that he says lasts years.
Maybe he'll respond.
impala
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tony1963 
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10-21-10 05:52 PM - Post#1992997    
    In response to impala

The easiest solution, by far, is to simply drop the tank and replace it with a new tank, sending unit and pickup screen.

Total time about 1.5 hours and about 120 bucks.

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daustin 
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10-27-10 09:15 AM - Post#1995782    
    In response to Chevrobert

Seafoam isn't a fuel stabilizer, it's a cleaner type fluid. Sta-bil is a fuel stabilizer, i've used it with great success in the past. They say properly treated fuel is good for about a year, i've stored fuel for 2 years with Sta-bil and it ran just like new gas when i used it. I did store it in a new air-tight plastic tank, in a side stall on my garage that was heated/cooled.
Don
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