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Username Post: SBC valve lift question        (Topic#235208)
C10 Sleeper 
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02-08-10 09:11 AM - Post#1858480    

Just out of curiosity I have been thinking about how much valve lift can a Small block chevy take with flat top pistons before actually hitting the pistons. Now I know there are many variable that come into play but lets say you have a 350 .030 over with a 2.02/1.60 set of basically stock 64cc heads that have never been milled and the block was decked just enough to clean it up.

Im not saying I want to do this to push any mis matched engine combos but I am planning a full out race motor for the near future and need some basic info to play off of and the rule book is going to be pretty strict on some things.
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grumpyvette 
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02-08-10 09:16 AM - Post#1858486    
    In response to C10 Sleeper

your forgetting that both the cams duration and Lobe Separation Angle will effect the resulting clearances, generally cams under about 220 duration at .050 lift with under a .470 lift and a 112 or wider LSA will clear


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Vaughn 
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02-08-10 10:22 AM - Post#1858523    
    In response to grumpyvette

Generally, a stock head with stock springs can stand up to just short of .50 inch of lift (.470 on vortecs) without major issues - like hitting the piston (depends more on the cam timing really), coil bind, valve float, etc.

Your heads will require machine work and better springs to improve on lift figures.

Your sanctioning body should have limits in their rulebooks, and if it is a near stock class they should be .50 inch or so.

 
C10 Sleeper 
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02-08-10 12:15 PM - Post#1858576    
    In response to Vaughn

I am not worried about springs or modifications to the heads to accomidate bigger springs to handle lift. The current rule book will be changed somewhat by next year when the car will be on the track. we can run any set of heads cubic inches are limited to 360 and must use a vic jr manifold with a flat top piston and any cam shaft as long is it isnt a roller. The motor is going into a circle track car that weights about 2500 pound and there is no engine claiming. In the past I was running a 6.30 rear gear turning about 7000-8000 RPMs if I remember correctly.

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C10 Sleeper 
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02-08-10 12:29 PM - Post#1858584    
    In response to C10 Sleeper

here is one of the cams I was considering its a solid flat tappet cam.

advertised duration int/ex 302/310
duration at .050 278/286
valve lift .550/570
lob seperation 106*

what are your opinions on PV clearance? I will have my machine shop set up the heads with the proper springs so there shouldnt be an issue other than if there is a chance that something will collide due to lack of proper clearance. I am trying to get into the ball park so I dont have to order multiple cams or have my pistons machined for more clearance if I dont have too.
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aghaga 
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02-08-10 02:08 PM - Post#1858634    
    In response to C10 Sleeper

I had a dirt track friend a while back who really liked Lunati SPA2-292-302 It has .550 in. and 571 ex.

 
52chevybob 
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02-08-10 03:07 PM - Post#1858662    
    In response to aghaga

Don't forget that valve regrinding gives more clearance for lift of the valves.

 
bobb 
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02-08-10 08:56 PM - Post#1858937    
    In response to C10 Sleeper

i have a .537 lift, 243@.050, 112 lsa with flatops and maybe .042 piston to head clearance. but thats with world heads so the end result may not be the same.
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C10 Sleeper 
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02-09-10 10:00 AM - Post#1859185    
    In response to bobb

OK thanks that is kind of what I wanted to see.
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stroked83 
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02-09-10 11:57 AM - Post#1859235    
    In response to C10 Sleeper

lunati solid roller

5.66/5.78 lift
110 lsa
16 lash

13cc dished kb 9.8:1

i know i got dished pistons which obviously help
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