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Username Post: 1949 CHEVY DELUXE vin        (Topic#232446)
playerzmyth 
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12-28-09 08:52 PM - Post#1832077    

1949 CHEVY DELUXE
WAS WONDERING IF ANYBODY CAN GIVE ME SOME INFORMATION ON THE THE FOLLOWING VIN# GAA74088 I CANT FIND ANYTHING ONLINE LET ME KNOW WHAT IT SHOWS THANKS

 
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12-28-09 09:05 PM - Post#1832085    
    In response to playerzmyth

I think you're missing a number there. Where is did you pull that vin# from?

Looks like it might be the engine number you're looking at. If it is, and if it's the original engine, then all I can tell you is that it's the 74,088 1949 engine built in Flint, Michigan.

Take a look at the resto pack for the '49:

http://chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com/chevyresto/49...
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playerzmyth 
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12-28-09 09:15 PM - Post#1832088    
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I GOT THE NUMBER RITE ON THE TITLE...
HOW MANY NUMBERS ARE SUPPOSE TO BE THERE

 
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12-28-09 11:33 PM - Post#1832134    
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Get the number from your serial number tag on the left "a pillar". It should match the title, did you check that when you bought the car?
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12-28-09 11:59 PM - Post#1832141    
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Some states used the engine number on titles rather than the car's serial number. The serial number is on the left A post on a stainless tag, sometimes they get painted over, sometimes they get removed. The engine number is on a small pad on the right side of the engine, behind the distributor, probably covered in grease.

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12-29-09 12:34 AM - Post#1832150    
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  • playerzmyth Said:
I GOT THE NUMBER RITE ON THE TITLE...
HOW MANY NUMBERS ARE SUPPOSE TO BE THERE



Please hit your capslock once more. You're shouting We like to keep things civil here.

Also, search is your friend. This has been covered lots.

(hense, the graphic above. lol )

The restopack I linked above shows the vin# format. Assembly plant-Model Year-Model-Month of Manufacture-Sequential Serial Number

So, Something like:

5-GK-A2322

Decodes as:

5: Kansas City, Mo.
G: 1949
K: Deluxe
A: Built in January
2322: Build number. (Sequential, starting at 1001)

That's right from the resto pack.

The engine decodes as follows:

Model Year - Passenger Car Engine - Plant - Serial.

Ie: GAA74088

G: 1949
A: Passenger Car Engine
A: Built in Flint, Michigan
74088: Sequential engine number

Take a look at the link... it will also tell you where to find each number for the car.



David

Edit: I wonder if there's one too many 8s in that number? Did they really build 79,000 motors in Flint that year?
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Edited by davidchristopher on 12-29-09 12:35 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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12-29-09 12:57 AM - Post#1832151    
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Addendum:

Seems the engine serials for 1949 go from GA-1001 to GA-1031807, as to answer my question above.
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playerzmyth 
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01-21-10 09:04 AM - Post#1846431    
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will i have a hard time registering my vehicle because the number on the title is gaa74090 and the tag by the door is diffrent,and those numbers are not even on my title????????? its a michigan title so they are going to want to inspect the vehicle before transfer of title please let me know

 
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01-21-10 10:38 AM - Post#1846492    
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1) where are you located??

2) is that number on engine?

if not...and the title you have doesn't match either number...good chance the title you have is not the one for the car....at that point..find out what it takes to replace a missing or lost title..or how to get a new title
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01-21-10 01:56 PM - Post#1846573    
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  • playerzmyth Said:
will i have a hard time registering my vehicle because the number on the title is gaa74090 and the tag by the door is diffrent,and those numbers are not even on my title????????? its a michigan title so they are going to want to inspect the vehicle before transfer of title please let me know



This thread has been active for a month, but we cannot assist you if you choose not to answer our questions.
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01-21-10 02:01 PM - Post#1846575    
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im in az

the vin number on the title is a engine number which im still trying to locate on the vehicle engine

but the number on the door pillar is no where on the title?

i also need to know from the guys with 49 chevy cars that plate on the pillar is your rivetit or does it have screws holding it in place

 
playerzmyth 
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01-21-10 02:04 PM - Post#1846577    
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what questions haven't i answered?

 
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Edited by playerzmyth on 01-21-10 02:13 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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01-21-10 02:19 PM - Post#1846589    
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Originally the plate was riveted on I believe, but mine had the plate removed and a different one attached with screws. I just made up a stock looking plate (see This Thread.) which I plan on riveting on after the car is painted.

When I got my car the # on the serial number plate was the same as the title but it was different than the engine number. I have since put in a different engine so the numbers would not match anyway.
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01-21-10 02:47 PM - Post#1846601    
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These old cars were bastardized in many ways over 50-60 years. In about 1989 I bought a '49 Chevy dumptruck from a junkyard--the yard was owned by a Deputy Sheriff, who was a very honest guy, and had been a deputy for 10 years. The number on the title did not match any other number on the truck--neither engine # nor body serial #. The Deputy said just to go ahead and register it, no one would ever even notice. I've had several other experiences like that where the # on the title didn't match any other number. If the car's body serial number or the engine number does not show up on the State's computers as stolen I don't believe you will have a problem unless the DMV is in Cal.

I had a similar problem last summer trying to register my '53 210 convertible in Mo.--I had pulled the original engine and replaced it with a '59 engine, and the old title had the old engine number on it. I went to the local License Office and they gave me a form to be signed by the P.D. to certify the vehicle was legit. The local P.D. just signed off on it without even checking the car in person.
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01-21-10 03:33 PM - Post#1846627    
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After reading the posts, I went and checked the engine # on my car to the title. Guess what?, one digit is off (a 6 for an 8). It worked for the previous owner and so far it's working for me so I'm not going to worry about it. Just shows how records get botched sometimes. John
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01-21-10 04:32 PM - Post#1846651    
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the vehicle i purchased was from michigan, its in arizona now past experience when you have a title from another state az dmv wants inspect the vehicle and they do search for the vin #, and if does not match, i will probably be showerd wit paper work to fill out

 
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01-21-10 04:33 PM - Post#1846652    
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if i do find that the engine number matches the title will they just go off that?

 
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01-21-10 05:59 PM - Post#1846710    
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If you know where to look for the numbers on the engine, you should look. You should hope they are the same as on the title. These cars were registered using the engine numbers as the VIN. The serial number plate on the door post was not used when the car was new. They are used a lot now as most of these cars had their original motors pulled out leaving the only identifying numbers left on the car those on the serial number plate. This is one of the most common problems to arise when trying to register any Chevy before 1955. The only other place your DMV will want to look for the VIN numbers is on the chassis. They can't seem to understand that the VIN numbers will not be there before the 1955 year. I spent a miserable 6 weeks last year trying to register my convertible. It all went bad when the serial number plate had the wrong rivets attaching it to the car.
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01-21-10 06:03 PM - Post#1846713    
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dom i saw a while ago on ebay the factory type rivets for the older cars
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01-21-10 06:13 PM - Post#1846721    
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I'm registered now Arnie. Just a big pita getting there.
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01-21-10 07:41 PM - Post#1846792    
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  • 52HardTop Said:
If you know where to look for the numbers on the engine, you should look. You should hope they are the same as on the title. These cars were registered using the engine numbers as the VIN. The serial number plate on the door post was not used when the car was new. They are used a lot now as most of these cars had their original motors pulled out leaving the only identifying numbers left on the car those on the serial number plate. This is one of the most common problems to arise when trying to register any Chevy before 1955. The only other place your DMV will want to look for the VIN numbers is on the chassis. They can't seem to understand that the VIN numbers will not be there before the 1955 year. I spent a miserable 6 weeks last year trying to register my convertible. It all went bad when the serial number plate had the wrong rivets attaching it to the car.
Dom



the door post has a plate with seriel number(which are not on the title) but its held in with screws..... so exactly what do i need to do to regester it, will the dmv look at the numbers on the engine ? i havent looked yet if those match the title, its poooring cats and dogs but i will when it lightens up


 
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01-21-10 08:08 PM - Post#1846807    
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Well I would think if the numbers on the title are the same as the numbers stamped onto the motor, you should have no problem getting it registered. Did I say that? Who knows what you may have to deal with when trying to get it registered. First thing, again, try to verify the numbers are the same on the title and then the motor.
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01-21-10 08:21 PM - Post#1846812    
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  • 52HardTop Said:
Well I would think if the numbers on the title are the same as the numbers stamped onto the motor, you should have no problem getting it registered. Did I say that? Who knows what you may have to deal with when trying to get it registered. First thing, again, try to verify the numbers are the same on the title and then the motor.
Dom


ill check the numbers as soon as i get a chance, the #'s are behind the ditrubuter (i think) thanks for your help
i would like to see some pics of your 51 convertible if possible


 
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01-21-10 09:35 PM - Post#1846842    
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or....stamp a plate to match the title...rough it up..screw it on...also see replacement chevy plates on ebay at times that are blank...maybe a call to your DMV..as i said above..ask them what to do if numbers don't match..
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01-22-10 12:05 AM - Post#1846891    
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"These cars were registered using the engine numbers as the VIN. The serial number plate on the door post was not used when the car was new".

Dom,

I believe you will find the factory used the A pillar serial numbers for their paperwork when the car was new and shipped to the dealer. The variable came in, and by state, as to what set of numbers they used for title work ....when the owner purchased the vehicle. Never made sense to me to use the engine number, when the engine could be swapped out, but the serial number stayed with the car for its' life.
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01-22-10 06:59 AM - Post#1846969    
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yes Bob..that is right. here in SnOhio...they were registered by the pillar numbers...bought a 35 Master from Texas...was registered by motor number...motor which left the car..30 yrs ago
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01-22-10 10:01 AM - Post#1847092    
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dido bob and ralph in nj they want the door pillar ser.i was lucky my car came from ark.they use pillar ser. my car was in continuses use from 1952 right up till 2 months before i bought it in 2008 arnie
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01-22-10 02:38 PM - Post#1847264    
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guess what fellas, i went out today to check the numbers on the engine and,,,,,, yes it matches the title now i just need to find out if thats good enough for the arizona dmv??,,,,,, i think i got me a matching number 49 deluxe (i have to research more) convertible ,,,, i was looking under the seat and i found a envelope with the dealer invoice and on top there was the engine # and it had the seriel number of the car also on there,,,,

 
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check with the dmv also if they use ser.number since i think all states do today..if they do since you have both numbers get them to do your new title with the ser.number ..makes it a lot easyer to resell if you must
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