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Username Post: Longest-lasting car battery?        (Topic#230316)
knightfan2691 
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11-23-09 11:18 PM - Post#1811375    

The last Sunday of August (August 30, 2009), I had to buy a new battery for my 1981 Monte Carlo SC. I've owned this car since December 1999 (when I bought it from my parents) and have not previously replaced the battery during my time as owner. The old battery was a GM/AC Delco battery.

So ... I asked Dad to look through his records to find out when that battery was installed. He looked and found that it was bought and installed February 4, 1997. The '81 MC SC had 167,000 miles at that time. When I replaced that battery, the car had 192,000 miles.

Thus ... that GM/AC Delco battery lasted over 12.5 years ... and 25,000 miles.

What is the longest a battery has lasted in your car(s)?



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11-27-09 12:30 PM - Post#1813453    
    In response to knightfan2691

I had a 88 Chev sportside, with the original Delco battery in it. I wasn't original owner, but knew the battery was OEM. I finally rpelaced it around '01. Sounds like close to the same time you got.

 
HAL_396 
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12-08-09 01:40 PM - Post#1820244    
    In response to knightfan2691

I have been buying Optima batteries until I realized the same thing you did. Those Delco batetries seem to last for-ever. I just bought a new one last week for my newest build. Cost about $92.00 out the door. They are hard to find. Only a couple places had them in a city of 130,000.

Its funny because I don't think there are many battery manufactures. So one company should make several brands of batteries. Why Delco seems to last longer just befuddles me.
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Thurman55 
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12-14-09 05:27 PM - Post#1824057    
    In response to HAL_396

"Hal_396", I see your post is dated 12-08-09, so I'll try to give a little insight. I worked for GM/Delco-Remy in a plant making alternators. For some reason, we were told "internal politics" the plant was closed after twenty years of making monies and having a reputation of high-quality. I was then transferred to a Delco-Remy battery plant, which later closed after the auto industry went ka-pooty. I can safely say that IF you are looking for one of those older, original type "Delco" batteries, you are out-of-luck in today's world. To the best of my knowledge--Delco-Remy/Del co/Delphi stopped making batteries in the U.S. about May of 2008 when all of Delphi(s) (at the time) battery business was sold to Johnson Control, which had been one of our main competitors. JC did not keep any Delphi plants, just shifted customer contracts over to their plants. As far as how Delphi batteries were made--I can explain this to you if you have about a week to listen. The only other battery which I have seen the inside of was an EXIDE battery when they started making the "spiral cell" technology and we acquired some of these to cut open to learn how they did this. I do know that the car batteries we built in the plant I was in had thick, very thick, plates, which may attest to their longevity. I retired from that plant in Jan. '05, then the bankruptcy, and nothing's been just fine since. Thanks, David

 
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12-14-09 09:59 PM - Post#1824253    
    In response to Thurman55

optima batts dont last more than a year for me . i have a red,blue, and yellow top all lasted about a year -year and a half at the most

 
HAL_396 
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12-15-09 11:08 AM - Post#1824470    
    In response to Thurman55

Thank you for the insight about Delco Batteries. I'm glad I bought one while they are still available.

So what brand of batteries does Johnson Control make? Does anyone make a battery as good as the Delco's?
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HAL_396 
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12-15-09 11:12 AM - Post#1824472    
    In response to x inFEKTid x

  • x inFEKTid x Said:
optima batts dont last more than a year for me . i have a red,blue, and yellow top all lasted about a year -year and a half at the most



I've had one in my 55 chevy now for about 5 years. Has never failed me. When not in use I always put it on a battery maintainer. Maybe that's the trick. Or maybe they are making them different now than they use to.
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Vaughn 
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12-15-09 05:32 PM - Post#1824668    
    In response to HAL_396

It's REALLY important that you don't the cook the optima style battery - a bad alternator (with a bad diode or the voltage regulator set too high) will cook them, and if you use the wrong style of battery charger you will cook them.

They can stand a FEW deep discharges, but if you discharge/deep discharge them on a regular basis (like when someone wires the field of the alternator to the output wire, to "fix" an alternator problem) they won't last very long.

 
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12-15-09 07:46 PM - Post#1824782    
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  • Vaughn Said:
It's REALLY important that you don't the cook the optima style battery - a bad alternator (with a bad diode or the voltage regulator set too high) will cook them, and if you use the wrong style of battery charger you will cook them.

They can stand a FEW deep discharges, but if you discharge/deep discharge them on a regular basis (like when someone wires the field of the alternator to the output wire, to "fix" an alternator problem) they won't last very long.



I put an Optima in my Son's VW when I built it...it lasted 10+ years. Then my Daughter bought him a security system/car alarm...the battery started giving him problems.

We replaced the battery...same problem...removed the damn alarm system, never a problem again.

I truly believe that battery would still be in the car 15+ years later, if I'd read a story about the Optima batteries earlier.

Turns out, if you deep discharge them, you can't simply recharge them like a "normal" battery. You have to be patient, and slow charge them for a few days, then put them on a regular charge.

At the local CO-OP here in Hitchcock USA, I noticed that one of the Farmers had traded in an Optima cause he couldn't get it to hold a charge.

I asked the manager if I could take it home...he said, "sure, it's no good!"

That battery has been working fine for over three years now...I did as the article said, I charged it on a trickle charge for a few days, then charged it "normally" for a day...it has never failed to start and run any vehicle I've put it in.

And its never lost its charge!!!

I now use it to run a fuel transfer rig I set up for when we have a loss of power here in rural OK...Winter time normal thing. This way, I can move fuel from undriven vehicles to my generator.

 
fritz1990 
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12-15-09 08:43 PM - Post#1824815    
    In response to Bobs85PU

I have been running the Gates batteries, now called Optimas, since they came out years ago. I run diesels only for daily transportation for the last 25+ years and these are the only batteries that I will put in them.

Only failure was a mistake on my part, left an accessory light on and didn't catch it for a few days and drained a pair of 'em, which has been stated is a Other than that I average at least 5 years a set. My last set I changed a couple months ago was 8 1/2 years old.

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12-15-09 08:55 PM - Post#1824818    
    In response to fritz1990

  • fritz1990 Said:
I have been running the Gates batteries, now called Optimas, since they came out years ago. I run diesels only for daily transportation for the last 25+ years and these are the only batteries that I will put in them.

Only failure was a mistake on my part, left an accessory light on and didn't catch it for a few days and drained a pair of 'em, which has been stated is a Other than that I average at least 5 years a set. My last set I changed a couple months ago was 8 1/2 years old.

Regards, Jeff




Like I said in my post, if you had the opportunity to trickle charge them for a couple of days, then "normally" charged them, you'd probably still be using them!!!

As in your case, and my case, too much knowledge too late!!!!

 
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12-16-09 04:31 AM - Post#1824888    
    In response to HAL_396

  • HAL_396 Said:


So what brand of batteries does Johnson Control make? Does anyone make a battery as good as the Delco's?



JC is making just about everyone's batteries.
Ranging from Interstate to Walmart to Advance Auto to Sears.

Keep in mind, that Exide also makes batteries for private labels.

So my point is if you buy a new battery, it is going to be either a JC or Exide battery.
The JC batteries are mfg'd just as well as the Delco's were.

In regards to a Delco living for over 10 years - that is rather impressive and certainly not the norm. If you get 4-5 years out of it - I would consider anything more to be "borrowed time".
Heat is the single biggest killer of batteries, so expect shorter battery life in those areas that get hot.

As a matter of preventive maintenance, I toss my JC battery (with Delco label) every 4.5 years.
Its cheaper than a tow truck.....
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HAL_396 
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12-17-09 11:01 AM - Post#1825666    
    In response to bowtieollie

I certainly agree with the heat. My 09 Pontiac G5 has the battery in the trunk in the spare tire well. I can't believe the Mfg's finally figured out the benefits of putting a batter back there.

My 04 trucks battery is still fine after a little over 5 years but I live where it is cold 9 months out of the year but I keep my garage heated at 55 when it does get cold. I'd like to see batteries last 7 yrs. under these conditions.
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Rick_L 
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01-18-10 08:04 PM - Post#1844890    
    In response to HAL_396

Johnson Controls has made Sears Die Hard batteries for just about forever. I think they also make Interstate batteries. Somebody correct me if I don't have that right.

I think Johnson and Exide are are only mfr's left for traditional wet cell batteries. They are all made by one of the two if it's a US sold automotive wet cell battery.

I had several AC-Delcos start leaking battery acid through the side terminals. Seems like that happened rather than the usual sulphating/shorted cells.

My last battery death was when my 2009 GMC had its battery give up the ghost at 3 months/3000 miles. I wasn't impressed. I was even less impressed that it was just 600 or so CCA. And the most CCA I could buy (quickly) for a replacement was just 700 CCA.

 
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01-20-10 09:44 PM - Post#1846286    
    In response to Rick_L

I've had a red top Optima for at least 5 years now. If the car is going to sit for a month I'll use the dis-connect switch. It has not failed yet. As in other forums on this topic, I have to say that opinions are directly related to personal experience. Mine, along with other people that I know, give Optima a thumbs up.

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01-21-10 08:55 AM - Post#1846422    
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I wish I'd had my Optima long enough to form an opinion. It was one of the many things stripped off my '92 when it was stolen!

If I had the extra bucks to lay out I'd buy another, but before that I've got a whole pallet full of maybe-good / maybe-bad batteries here to choose from before I exhaust all my options.

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01-29-10 03:25 PM - Post#1852299    
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exide used to make sears die hard batteries. back in the 70's and 80's. they would leak acid out the terminals. the president of exide knew about this problem, however to fix it would have cost him a very large amount of $. so they just keep on making faulty ones. after while, people, like me, complained about the acid eating up the tray and generally not lasting. then there was a law suit filed against exide. the president got fired and exide lost contracts with sears and some other private label co's. it has taken exide years to overcome the problem. personally i would never use a sears or exide battery ever.

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01-30-10 05:31 AM - Post#1852693    
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  • Rick_L Said:
I had several AC-Delcos start leaking battery acid through the side terminals. Seems like that happened rather than the usual sulphating/shorted cells.



I had the OEM Delco battery in my '98 Corvette fail after three years. The positive battery terminal separated from the case spilling acid on the frame and some of the plastic wrap on the wiring harness, a real mess. Luckily the computer, which is located in the area under the battery, was not damaged. One of the old timers at the Chevy dealer told me that this side post separation was a problem with the OEM batteries on a lot of GM cars, but the replacement Delco's did not seem to have it.

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01-30-10 01:33 PM - Post#1852927    
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All the ones I had a problem with were replacement batteries purchased at the auto supply. For a while I stuck with them - I'd trade in the leaker for a new one and pay the pro-rate, but finally enough was enough. They would last 18-30 months, just like other batteries. Difference was the leaked rather than be sulfated or have a dead cell.

 
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02-23-10 10:16 AM - Post#1867949    
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My 86 Grand Prix got a new battery in 94 right after I painted it and got the new motor running. I park the car all winter with the battery disconnected but sitting in the car and the battery just finally quit in the fall of 2008. And it gave no warning. That was a Champion battery. Now owned by Exide.
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02-23-10 12:02 PM - Post#1868019    
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8 years sounds about right for a quality battery. I hope I hope I get that out of all my delco batteries.
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I got 11 years out of an interstate in my 64 that was used for cranking a detroit all those years
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06-25-10 07:43 AM - Post#1935769    
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  • tam85 Said:
car batteries are very important to operate our vehicle. the most popular car battery brands are champion, napa, exide, diehard, duralast, interstate motorcraft and everstart. i prefer duralast. got one from auto parts online.




Of all those brands on the market, I wonder how many of those batteries are actually made by the same manufacturer?

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06-25-10 01:29 PM - Post#1935942    
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Well my Delco battery in my 04 truck died a couple weeks ago. It didn't make it 6 years.. I replaced it with a NAPA 84 month battery.
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Edited by HAL_396 on 06-25-10 01:30 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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07-20-10 03:41 PM - Post#1948377    
    In response to HAL_396

I'm an Optima guy myself. I heard of some people with Optima trouble years ago, but my experience has always been good. It's not impossible that the batteries have gone through design changes and refinements. This would not be unusual. My 55 Chevy, which doesn't see much use I must admit has had it's OPtima for 6 years. My Saturn daily driver for 8 years. My 91 Chevy pick up for 6 years, and my 55 ford Tractor has had an Optima 6V for 3 years now. No issues with any so far. My 55 chev and ford tractor are kept on the Battery Tender when not in use. It's important not to leave them discharge for long storage, or they will likely be unrecoverable.
If someone else can design it, I sure as heck can figure out how to fix it!


 
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I forgot to put the tender on my Optima a few weeks ago and it drained down to about 8 1/2 volts. I was able to save it by charging it using the 1.5 amp tender. No problems since.
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07-21-10 08:43 PM - Post#1949081    
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  • brad_bb Said:
I heard of some people with Optima trouble years ago, but my experience has always been good.



Your experience mirrors what I've heard ... trouble years ago, but most-recently, nothing but good things....



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07-22-10 07:31 PM - Post#1949553    
    In response to knightfan2691

Optima batteries and other spiral cell batteries had trouble with certain types of battery chargers, like the early versions of AutoMeter Battery Extender that use modified AC square wave to eliminate sulfation in lead acid batteries. The ac signals sent out by the battery charger tended to short out the AGM mats separating the lead plates, causing battery failure.

Apparently their new circuitry eliminates this, although I personally won't use my Battery Extender on any of my Optima batteries.

The battery tender style of charger is a float charger, so doesn't have that same effect on the Optimas.

 
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