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Username Post: Best way to start engine after 10 years        (Topic#217217)
Michaelrj9 
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05-18-09 06:25 PM - Post#1700253    

Hi all,
Thanks for looking,
I have A 64 Impala that has been sitting for 10 years or so and wanted to get it running again.

What is the best way to start a engine afer sitting for 10 plus years. I already cleaned the gas tank out and I am having someone rebuild the carb and I am going to buy a new fuel pump, points, plugs, wires etc. But I wanted to know what I should do to the engine before cranking it for the first time again to try to save the rings and lifters for as long as possible.

Thanks

Michael

 
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tony1963 
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05-18-09 07:18 PM - Post#1700301    
    In response to Michaelrj9

I would put a breaker bar on the front crankshaft bolt and see if the engine is seized. If not, pour some trans fluid down the carburetor throat and tun the engine over one full turn by hand every day for 2 or 3 days. Then start as normal.

If the engine is seized, not much you can do. I would pull the spark plugs and squirt trans fluid in the cylinders.

Next day, bump the starter slowly. Don't spin the engine over and hydralock the engine and bend the rods. Bump it a little at a time.

If she is good and seized, the starter will just sit there and get hot. They, you have problems.
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63fourdoor 
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05-18-09 07:28 PM - Post#1700310    
    In response to tony1963

Ditto on what tony1963 said. The only thing I would do different is pull all the plugs and pour some Marvel Mystery Oil in the openings and let sit a day or two. Put in new plugs and follow what Tony said in regards to starting.

 
Michaelrj9 
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05-18-09 07:34 PM - Post#1700313    
    In response to tony1963

  • tony1963 Said:
I would put a breaker bar on the front crankshaft bolt and see if the engine is seized. If not, pour some trans fluid down the carburetor throat and tun the engine over one full turn by hand every day for 2 or 3 days. Then start as normal.

If the engine is seized, not much you can do. I would pull the spark plugs and squirt trans fluid in the cylinders.

Next day, bump the starter slowly. Don't spin the engine over and hydralock the engine and bend the rods. Bump it a little at a time.

If she is good and seized, the starter will just sit there and get hot. They, you have problems.



That is that I was thinking almost exactly. But I was thinking of taking ot the plugs first and put in some tranny fluid and let it sit a day or so before even trying to turn it by hand. My thinking was to lubercate the rings before trying to turn it over by hand first any thoughts of doing it this way?

Any other thoughts and help will be greatly appreciated

Thanks

Michael

 
52chevybob 
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05-18-09 08:08 PM - Post#1700349    
    In response to Michaelrj9

Not down the carb as there will be a number of places it can pool. Pull the plugs and lube the rings that way. A lot safer. Also a teaspoon of lubricant is more than enough. Crank a bit after a day or two to get the oil up into the galleys and get some pressure in the engine. If everything is right, the engine will fire just nicely and put out a nice big smoke cloud!

 
o m d 
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05-23-09 09:08 AM - Post#1703183    
    In response to 52chevybob

I would change the oil, pull the distributor and spin the oil pump with a priming tool. All the other ideas seem spot on.

 
arnieg141 
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05-24-09 01:32 AM - Post#1703558    
    In response to 52chevybob

mike don't make the job biger than it has to be. like bob says about the oil and start up..since you said your putting new plugs anyway. pull each plug put a piece of tap on each wire so you don't get them mixed up [[ i know this is not the fireing order but it's the best way a beginer to work with motor with out mixing wires up ]]] always add number on the tape starting with rear plug driver side as # 1 and go clock wise with the rear plug on passanger side being # 8 now with wires pulled plugs out put the oil in plug hole about a tea spoon . . next day with plugs still out turn your motor over about a minute. put plugs back in put a little starting fluid in carb FIRE IT UP. safe driveing have fun.
GET ER DONE .. AS I GET OLDER I LIKE FAST CARS I CAN STILL DRIVE. AND VERY SLOW WOMEN I CAN CATCH while still able..arnie garrison


 
Michaelrj9 
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06-15-09 07:07 PM - Post#1717749    
    In response to arnieg141

It's Alive!!!!!
It's Alive!!!!!
It's Alive!!!!!

I put trans fluid in the cylinders a few weeks ago. Put new oil & filter. I cleaned out the gas tank,replaced fuel pump & inline fuel filter, cleaned\rebuilt carb,replaced points, cap,rotor & spark plugs and a new battery of course. Put gas in the tank,I primed the cleaned out carb by pouring gas into the fuel line going to the carb to fill the bowl's.

It would not turn over nothing not a click from the starter nothing. After a week of tryig to diagnose the problem I found out I had disconnected the neutral safty switch. I reconnected the switch and...

Pumped the gas a few times and it fired right up within a few seconds no starting fluid or nothing!

Now need to finish up adjusting the timing & mixture screws etc..

Then it is time to tackle the brakes. Ten years ago when it was resting it had a wheel cylinder leak. I need to go through the brake system next.

Then comes the big part body & interior.


Thanks again for everyone's help

Michael

 
arnieg141 
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06-16-09 04:27 AM - Post#1717907    
    In response to Michaelrj9

thats good news mike now your motor runs good later you can get the 3 dueces. with the money you where going to use for a replacement motor. good deal
GET ER DONE .. AS I GET OLDER I LIKE FAST CARS I CAN STILL DRIVE. AND VERY SLOW WOMEN I CAN CATCH while still able..arnie garrison


 
impalalover64 
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06-16-09 02:00 PM - Post#1718183    
    In response to arnieg141

Great Mike!!!! I'm going to have to do the same thing. What does the ATF do over oil???? I accidentially bumped my starter when messing with Blue Magic. Do you think I messed anything up. I had a good engine 12 years ago with my main problem being my carb and a transmission that needs a front seal.

 
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