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Username Post: 1974 C50 weight query        (Topic#176543)
David Hayward 
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12-07-07 10:40 AM - Post#1312977    

Can anyone help this poor guy please?

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Hi,

I hope you can help me. I am being hassled by my city government because I have a 1974 Chevrolet C50 truck stored on my property which they claim is a four ton truck and can’t be on the property. Would it be possible to for you to tell me the curb weight of this vehicle? The data plate only lists the GVW but that isn’t the actual curb weight. This truck is essentially a yard truck for property maintenance and is not currently licensed so I can’t take it off-site to be weighed. Thank you for your help.

Sincerely,

Eric Rickes




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Magno99900 
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Loc: Hayward, CA
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12-07-07 07:06 PM - Post#1313364    
    In response to David Hayward

not sure where he is from but if goes down to the dmv he may be able to get a 24hr temp permit, and take it to a weigh station

 
Vaughn 
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Loc: Colorado Springs, CO
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12-07-07 07:25 PM - Post#1313389    
    In response to Magno99900

The C-60 is rated at 2 or 2 1/2 tons, if I remember right. I doubt that it is rated for 4 tons. It might be rated at 4,000 pounds or a little less. If it has a single rear axle, it is a virtual certainty that it rated for less than 4 tons (even with dual rear wheels).

City ordinances about vehicles tread a thin line. They can enact laws about junk vehicles, but running vehicles that are on your property is a little iffy.

Some people get around these annoyances by registering the vehicle through DMV, but sign an insurance affidavit that the vehicle is not to be driven - so that insurance does not have to carried on the vehicle. It's a little annoying, but it gets them off your back.

The city won't generally cite anyone for the junk vehicle statute - unless someone has signed a complaint. It is your constitutional right to know who signed the complaint. The police will hem and haw about giving you the name, but they cannot refuse you outright. This will allow you to talk with the individual, to try to reach some sort of agreement.

 
gchemist 
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12-08-07 06:30 AM - Post#1313616    
    In response to Vaughn

C-50 = 3-4 tons
C-55 = 3.5-4.5 tons
C-60 = 4-6 tons
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David Hayward 
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David Hayward
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12-10-07 06:38 AM - Post#1315046    
    In response to gchemist

Thanks guys!
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David Hayward 
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David Hayward
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12-10-07 10:44 AM - Post#1315219    
    In response to David Hayward

Here's the response:

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Hi David,
Thank you so much for the information. The truck is a C50 single axle, with a hydraulic ladder on board. It is used to maintain a daycare center located on the property(painting, windows, etc). I met all restrictions they imposed except the 4 ton limit and I had no way of figuring out the curb weight. They also claimed my 1 ton pickup used for snow plowing also exceeded the 4 ton limit. It could be that someone complained but I have had them there for a number of years. It's hard to fight the city if they are determined to have their way. I'll talk to the building department and try and change their mind, but I don't count on having much luck. Thank you for all the other suggestions. Best regards for the holidays.
Sincerely,

Eric Rickes




A lady I know has a van going in and out of her house as she does house contents purchases. Local neighbours keep trying to get the local council on to her because theere is a large van going in ajnd out, so there must be a business going on. It's a shame that "people power" can intrude on legitimate and innocent people.

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Bill K.b 
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12-10-07 02:45 PM - Post#1315377    
    In response to David Hayward

The guy needs to go actually read the codes himself, and find some books that include the weight of these trucks in them (the 1-ton should be easy to find). My town tried telling me a car trailer is a commercial vehicle and not allowed, but they had the codes online and I wrote back and pointed out that the code says only commercial vehicles in excess of 7000 lbs are not allowed. I could have the trailer with a full bore diesel 4x4 1-ton Suburban on it and still not exceed 7000 lbs. They didn't have much to say after being caught in an outright lie.

Generally if you can wave their own codes in their faces and prove you're in the right.. and in this case maybe mention that a lawyer could have a field day with this... they move on and find someone else to pick on.
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Fixitfox33 
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12-10-07 03:43 PM - Post#1315427    
    In response to Bill K.b

And I assume you mean that those 7000 lb commercial vehicles are not allowed to be kept, or stored parked on the property.
An interesting point would be commercial vehicle,as opposed to the personal trailer or vehicle.
A big commercial moving truck, for instance, with someones houshold goods would certainly weigh more than 7000 lbs, and I can't see them prohibiting them.
Especially a new resident(taxpayer)moving IN.

I am never surprised by some of the ignorance displayed by some city council members, weather well intended or just trying to harrass someone.
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gchemist 
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12-10-07 05:14 PM - Post#1315487    
    In response to Fixitfox33

Can you post the VIN?
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David Hayward 
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David Hayward
Age: 58
Loc: New Forest, UK
Reg: 04-10-99
12-11-07 04:04 AM - Post#1315767    
    In response to gchemist

I have asked him! I can't find my STANDARD CATALOG OF CHEVROLET LIGHT DUTY TRUCKS as I would have looked it up, hence my query.
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gchemist 
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Loc: Austin, TX 78748
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12-11-07 04:30 AM - Post#1315771    
    In response to David Hayward

The vehicle registration tag or paperwork should have an estimated weight.
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