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Username Post: Elgin cams        (Topic#152523)
awendel 
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02-24-07 01:42 PM - Post#1104204    

Anyone here heard of or had an Elgin brand cam?
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02-24-07 01:52 PM - Post#1104213    
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Now with the aid of a computer, Dema makes his own camshaft designs. His customers include General Motors, Ford Motor Co., Nissan Corp., Zakspeed International, Porsche Motor Sports, and "Winston Cup" engine builders. He has the largest percentage of cams used at "Mid-Ohio" from GT-1 to Formula-V.

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five-seven 
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02-24-07 01:54 PM - Post#1104214    
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Awendel,
I had an elgin cam that was a repop of the old fuel injection 327 cam and had no trouble with it. That was 15 or 20 years ago so I cant tell if their quality is the same now. Steve

 
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02-24-07 04:36 PM - Post#1104304    
    In response to awendel

I have the Elgin E923 in my 283. Runs good.

Lift: .420"/.443" Duration @ .050": 204/214 Lobe Center: 112

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02-24-07 04:40 PM - Post#1104309    
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I had one in a previous motor I built when I 1st bought the car. No troubles at all.


 
awendel 
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02-24-07 05:21 PM - Post#1104340    
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Thanks guys
Been trying to decide on a blower cam and Elgin has one with the specs I'm looking for and it's quite a bit less than any of the name brands I've looked at. They may go to the head of the list.
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Rick_L 
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02-24-07 05:59 PM - Post#1104377    
    In response to awendel

Elgin is not a big retailer - most of their stuff is sold by others, and under various brand names.

For instance, it's possible and likely that the cams you see from Summit or others as "house" brands are made by Elgin.

So while they're not a "name" brand, they are a "name" supplier, and they are a US company that's been in business for some time.

I wouldn't worry about its quality. Make sure it's what you want and check valve to piston clearance as well as retainer to guide and all the others.

 
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02-24-07 07:15 PM - Post#1104439    
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Rick
I've been doing some measuring with my dial indicators and degree wheel with my heads on the block. Using the opening and closing specs on the cam it looks like the one Lunati recommended will be ok as far as the piston/valve clearance. Of course I won't know for sure till I get one installed and check it then.
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02-25-07 02:46 PM - Post#1105120    
    In response to awendel

My machine shop (El Inca Racing-LA) is a dealer for Elgin. I have used a few of their cams, and we recently put one into my S-I-L's 383...nice cam, pulls hard at bottom and mid range
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02-25-07 10:27 PM - Post#1105473    
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Many, if not all, of their cams seem to be the same as those sold by Summit Racing, Jeg's, Federal Mogul, and others. (194/204, 204/214, 214/224, etc.), which at one time were all made by Camshaft Machine Co.

I'm surpirsed to hear that Elgin actually makes parts in the U.S. anymore. I bought some Elgin ball joints and tie rod ends many years ago that were made in Mexico. The rubber boots split open within a few weeks, tie rod ends wouldn't take grease, etc. Sent all the parts back and bought Moog instead.
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02-26-07 08:48 AM - Post#1105685    
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I just found out there are two companies named Elgin ,and both make cams. That's going to get a little confusing.

Elgin Industries

Elgin Cams

Which one is better?
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02-26-07 09:43 AM - Post#1105713    
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  • awendel Said:
I just found out there are two companies named Elgin, and both make cams. That's going to get a little confusing. Which one is better?


I'd say Crane, Comp, or Lunati.

What size/type cam are you interested in? You might want to call the folks at D. Elgin Cams to see what they recommend, since they don't list any of their cams. Interesting philosophy, actually. The other Elgin company (Elgin Industries) looks like the one that imports cheap suspension parts and sells generic cams.

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Edited by MikeB on 02-26-07 09:53 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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02-26-07 12:22 PM - Post#1105856    
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I'd say Crane, Comp, or Lunati.



I'm thinking the same thing now. The Elgin cams I was looking at are from Elgin industries. If they are imported, thats why they were so much cheaper than the name brand cams. Think I'll stick with the name brands rather than take a chance on getting an import.


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What size/type cam are you interested in?



I need it for the 454 blower motor I'm building. I've got a range of specs I'm looking for and just need to make a decision on whose cam I want. Nothing radical, just blower friendly.
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MikeB 
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02-26-07 12:33 PM - Post#1105863    
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Just a tame little 454. huh?

I think you should call a few manufacturers to get their recommendations.
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02-26-07 12:59 PM - Post#1105875    
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Not to beat a dead horse , but Elgin (Elgin Industries) has been in the OEM business for many many decades. They provide the OEMs with a lot of parts. I don't think that characterisng them as some guys who import a bunch of cheap stuff does them justice.
I have no stake in this topic, but they have been around longer than most of the big cam grinders like Crane and Comp, and produce a lot of camshafts....
FWIW, when it came time to buy a cam for my blower motor, I went with Crower, based on past racing experience...I run their cam, lifters, push rods, springs, and SS rocker arms because of their reputation for reliability, and the excellent service when I have called them in the past.... I lost a needle bearing on a rocker arm in the race car, and they replaced all 16 rockers gratis...They had me send the old parts because they had not had that part fail before...
I also agree picking a cam company and calling for their recommendation....
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02-26-07 01:02 PM - Post#1105878    
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His customers include General Motors, Ford Motor Co., Nissan Corp., Zakspeed International, Porsche Motor Sports, and "Winston Cup" engine builders

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MikeB 
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02-26-07 01:56 PM - Post#1105936    
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Right or wrong, I associate Elgin with low end, imported, replacement parts sold by JC Whitney. Their website says they have a modern plant in Illinois, so maybe they make some good products, too. Do they really grind their own cams?
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02-26-07 02:17 PM - Post#1105956    
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Thadd
Are you saying the cams from Elgin Industries are not some import cams? If so, I'll go back to looking at them again. Their costs is pretty good compared to some others. I did get recommendations from Lunati and Crane, but when I saw the Elgin cams were cheaper for the same specs I thought why not check them out too. The other Elgin cams is in California. It looks like they will custom grind you a cam instead of choosing something from a catalog. Here's a link to the cams I'm looking at. Competition Products
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02-26-07 07:11 PM - Post#1106227    
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My experience is you can't use "Good" and "Cheap" in the same sentence discussing cams...Its either "Good" or its "Cheap"...one or the other!! I'd go with a name brand but then I'm lazy and hate the minutia when several are so close in numbers!!
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02-26-07 07:41 PM - Post#1106254    
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Tip, where I work we give the boss and the others who need things a checklist - good, cheap, and quick - we will go for 2 out of 3 but only usually achieve one.

 
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Tip, where I work we give the boss and the others who need things a checklist - good, cheap, and quick - we will go for 2 out of 3 but only usually achieve one.



Good point Rick...very good point!!


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03-04-07 05:06 PM - Post#1111195    
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FWIW I put an Elgin cam, lifters and timing set in an old work car years ago, got the engine out of it back a few years later after a friend used the car up. It's a 400 SBC out of a '74 Monte Carlo and is sitting out in the garage right now and will eventually end up in my "new" '76 Monte Carlo. Cam, lifters and timing set are still good and will probably get reused in a demo derby car my kid has. Not sure I'd put their stuff in a blower motor but for a daily driver it's just fine. We've used quite a few Summit cams too and never had a lick of trouble with any of them.


 
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